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Post by Big on Apr 3, 2007 19:17:25 GMT -5
We all came from Africa anyway.
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Post by satiev1 on Apr 3, 2007 19:31:34 GMT -5
I may be wrong about the year, but the rest is right, Prussian = Slav! So, Satiev argues his own people are war mongers! The Prussian Emprie had slavs living in them, but they weren't slavs. They were dominated by germans and the leaders were german. The original prussians were a Baltic tribe, akin to the modern Lithuanians and Latvians.
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Post by satiev1 on Apr 3, 2007 19:34:14 GMT -5
Your stupidity baffles me. Russia has been at war with Prussia throughout history and you maintain they are the slavs. Did you read the link I posted? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PrussiaI'm guessing you won't read it so I'll post the first 3 paragraphs here for you. The name Prussia derives from the Old Prussians, a Baltic people related to the Lithuanians and Latvians; "Old Prussia" was later conquered by the Teutonic Knights and then slowly Germanized. The union of the Margraviate of Brandenburg and the Duchy of Prussia in 1618 led to the proclamation of the Kingdom of Prussia in 1701. Prussia attained its greatest importance in the 18th and 19th centuries. During the 18th century, it became a great European power under the reign of Frederick II of Prussia (1740–86). During the 19th century, Chancellor Otto von Bismarck pursued a policy of uniting the German principalities into a "Lesser Germany" which would exclude the Austrian Empire. The Kingdom of Prussia dominated northern Germany politically, economically, and in terms of population, and was the core of the unified North German Confederation formed in 1867, which became part of the German Empire or Deutsches Reich in 1871. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teutonic_KnightsThe Teutonic Knights were German too. The Prussians were conquered by the Germans and later germanized which became known as the Prussian Empired ruled by Germans.
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Post by oc on Apr 3, 2007 20:29:08 GMT -5
Satiev, You could be right, but then one of the greatest philosophers of the 20th century is wrong.
I doubt he is.
Speaking of stupid, what does ethnic origin have to do with who one wars on? The Greeks were Greeks, they killed each other with aplomb (see the Pelopenisian Wars). Why is Russia not getting along with Ukraine if ethnicity dtermines peaceful co-existance? They' both Slav's right? Why did Russia invade Poland, come on, they're Slavs right? You really don't know much about history do you? Reading Wiki and then regurgitating it means nothing. I'm orginizing my books now, when I get to the philosophy section I'll post the citation by Sir Karl Popper.
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Post by satiev1 on Apr 4, 2007 0:15:05 GMT -5
OC, this isn't a dispute. Regardless of where the Prussians originated from, they were controlled by the Germans. So the Prussian empire is another name for German Empire. The kings and princes were all germans and dictated the empire's policies. I know realized that I could care less about the origin of the Prussians.
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