The great Evangelical Christian plan

[Big]

So, the other day I am watching CNN special before bed time.

They show these Evangelical Christian Churches where they believe that Israel is God's land that was given to Jews by God. These Churches preach the "End of Times" is near and the ultimate battle between Good and Evil is approaching, meaning Christians vs Muslims. They believe the ultimate battle will be in Israel and around Israel and that is why a strong support of Israelis is necessary. They believe once the Evil is defeated Christians will take over Israel, "God's land", and begin assimilation of Jews into one and only Christian religion.

Then, there are other Churches that are gaining momentum, so called "Prosperity Churches". In these Churches ministers preach "God wants you to be rich". They say things like "God wants you to drive a Mercedes. God wants you to get a promotion and a large bonus this year, so lets pray to that".

[oc]

Big, Heresy is not something that belongs to the distant past of the Church, it's here and now. The prosperity Gospel is a good example of this, how anyone can advocate this and consider it Christianity is beyond me. You're also correct about EC, they support Israel because the believe doing so will believe doing so will "aid" in Christs second coming.

[redviking]

He who blesses Israel will be blessed.

Don't focus solely on salvation through Jesus Christ. I mean, that is important to, but we have to support Israel, the Israel that England and the U.S. invented in 1948. This is no doubt Biblical. If you support them, God will bless you. Not before 1948, but now that we have the people there that our government wants, NOW God will bless you. Never mind about blessing Christians or those that have never heard the gospel (most Israeli citizens have but reject it). Instead you should give preferential treatment to those that know about Jesus but reject that he was God. Oh yah, it doesn't matter that the Israel of the Bible was 12 tribes, only one of which was Judah, and the Jews of modern day Israel have only a coincidental overlap at best with the tribe of Judah. That isn't important. What is important is the name - "Israel". As long as it is called the same thing, you will be blessed.

Sometimes I really think that these large evangelical churches may really be under the headship of Satan. This is one of only many whacked out things that they profess.

[satiev1]

The movement in this country is similar to what was happening in 1930's Italy and Germany. This country is not based on diversity at all. The only diversity in this country is California, NY, and some other cities such as Miami. This is why I choose to live in California. There are about 100 milion evangelicals in this country and growing. The rest are modern conservatives and christian fanatics. This is the basis for this country and why people like Bush win.

[Big]

The only reason diversity is allowed is to keep economy alive, the same reason slavery was abolished. Most of the diversity has a dead end at a certain level anyway.

True diversity can only be seen through government. How many Asian, Hindu and Muslim politicians do we have in Washington?

[satiev1]

Exactly Big, diversity exists because companies and corporations need people to exploit for cheap labor.

[Big]

or because those companies require people with skills for certain positions that Americans don't have.

[satiev1]

Yah like Einstein and all those other geniuses who sold out their country to come to America for money.

[Flop the Nuts]

satiev1 said:

Yah like Einstein and all those other geniuses who sold out their country to come to America for money.

I don't follow what you're saying.

[doublej]

I don't follow the Einstein remark either.

[satiev1]

Einstein was a jewish immigrant who was paid to come here. He sold his country out. This is what it means to acquire people with skills that Americans don't have. Einstein is just one example though.
The U.S. government paid the world's top scientists lots of money to come and work for them. They continue to do so. This is why America is one of the world's leading countries in technology.

[Big]

satiev is right!

Perhaps, no better Scientist comes to mind than Tesla, a Serbian genius who put Thomas Edison to shame. Tesla is known to many as the scientist that invented 20th Century, yet he was cheated by Edison and died as a poor man.


In 1884, when Tesla first arrived in the US, he had little besides a letter of recommendation from Charles Batchelor, his manager in his previous job. In the letter of recommendation to Thomas Edison, Charles Batchelor wrote, "I know two great men and you are one of them; the other is this young man." Edison hired Tesla to work for his company Edison Machine Works. Tesla's work for Edison began with simple electrical engineering and quickly progressed to solving the company's most difficult problems. Tesla was offered the task of a complete redesign of the Edison company's direct current generators.

In 1919 Tesla wrote that Edison offered him the then-staggering sum of $50,000 (almost $1 million today, adjusted for inflation [1]) if he completed the motor and generator improvements. Tesla said he worked nearly a year to redesign them and gave the Edison company several enormously profitable new patents in the process. When Tesla inquired about the $50,000, Edison reportedly replied to him, "Tesla, you don't understand our American humor," and reneged on his promise.[22] Tesla resigned when he was refused a raise to $25 per week. At Tesla's salary of $18 per week the bonus would have amounted to over 53 years pay, and the amount was equal to the initial capital of the company.[23] He eventually found himself digging ditches for a short period of time—ironically for the Edison company. Edison had also never wanted to hear about Tesla's AC polyphase designs, believing that DC electricity was the future. Tesla focused intently on his AC polyphase system, even while digging ditches.[24]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla

[Flop the Nuts]

satiev1 said:

Einstein was a jewish immigrant who was paid to come here. He sold his country out. This is what it means to acquire people with skills that Americans don't have. Einstein is just one example though.
The U.S. government paid the world's top scientists lots of money to come and work for them. They continue to do so. This is why America is one of the world's leading countries in technology.

Do you find:

1. U.S. at fault
2. Einstein at fault
3. Einstein's former country at fault
4. Some combination of the above
5. No one is at fault

I'm pretty sure that #1 will be included in your answer, as it usually is your answer to most things.

I'm going with #5. Einstein went where he would have the most opportunity to do the work he wanted to do.

[Big]

Flop,

Its not about fault. The issue is that America respects diversity because of all the talent it can acquire from other countries for its own benefit. Immigrants often get more than they could get in their native countries with respect to finances but FAR LESS than an American of similar talent would get in America.

[Big]

In any case, diversity in America is economically driven and goes only up to a certain (necessary) point.