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Post by satiev1 on Mar 30, 2007 16:02:35 GMT -5
Yawn. You're an idiot if you think Britain would not bomb Iran for kidnapping their soldiers. This is why they're not bombing Iran, because Britain trespassed. The security council knows also knows this very well.
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Post by satiev1 on Mar 30, 2007 16:06:36 GMT -5
Why is that Britian should have the right to do what it wants? It can break laws and be made the victim.
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Post by JensenS on Mar 30, 2007 16:38:54 GMT -5
They didn't break any laws, Iran is obviously lying. They changed their original position of the British boat after they kidnapped the sailors because it didn't fit their "story."
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Post by Flop the Nuts on Mar 30, 2007 17:01:00 GMT -5
Yawn. You're an idiot if you think Britain would not bomb Iran for kidnapping their soldiers. This is why they're not bombing Iran, because Britain trespassed. The security council knows also knows this very well. Yawn. Satiev is lapping up the lies of another corrupt regime. What else is new? Also, back to name calling now? The last refuge of the desparate... Don't try to bring the security council into this as if they are some sort of gold standard. The UN has been a joke for some time now.
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Post by satiev1 on Mar 30, 2007 18:16:31 GMT -5
They didn't break any laws, Iran is obviously lying. They changed their original position of the British boat after they kidnapped the sailors because it didn't fit their "story." I'll agree with you on one thing. Iran maybe forcing the sailors to apologize on televesion. However, there isn't a dispute about Britain trespassing. If theres was, Britian would bomb Iran to bits. This is preventing them from doing this. Think about it, Britain who is a world power is not gonna let Iran kidnapp their sailors by force. It would only let it pass without force if there was trespassing involved which the British know very well and do not want to admit due to pride.
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Post by JensenS on Mar 30, 2007 18:27:17 GMT -5
Dude its been a week, they aren't going to bomb them into oblivion that quick.
As I'm sure you know Iran held the US Embassy employees hostage for over a year back in 1979-1980 and the US didn't bomb them then, the big evil western nations do solve things every once while through methods other than military action.
I'd imagine we'd see an SAS team sent in to try and get them out before we saw a massive bombing campaign.
Iran originally reported that they'd kidnapped the sailors in one location, this is not disputable, you can see it on the map I posted on the previous page. This map was from one of your yahoo articles, and it showed the originally reported position was in Iraqi waters. Yet, when it comes out that they were infact in Iraqi territory, the area all of a sudden shifts North into Iranian territory. Something doesn't seem right here.
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Post by satiev1 on Mar 30, 2007 18:47:42 GMT -5
The situation in 1979-1980 was completly different because USSR signed a treaty with Iran. If anyone attacked Iran, USSR would retaliate and join in creating World War 3. So only an idiot who wants to see the world blown up would have attacked Iran back then. Now there is no such treaty. Also, the politics were different back then as a revolution just happened and the Vietname war ended in 1975. America did not want to be dragged into another war. Now, war seems to be really popular among western countries.
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Post by JensenS on Mar 30, 2007 18:55:46 GMT -5
The sky is blue! (just checking to see if you're going to disagree with me here and say its green)
The Soviets wouldn't have risked annihilation for Iran, and I'm not an expert or anything, but I've never heard of a treaty between the Soviets and Iran at that time. If you've got info on it, I'd like to see it.
Further, the US went into Iran and attempted to rescue the hostages. Operation Eagle Claw, it failed miserably, but was still attempted. Where was this titanic response from the Soviets as a result of this "violated" Iranian sovereignty?
Edit: Dude I really don't even know why I bother coming down here sometimes..."Nowadays war is popular among western countries." And Eastern, and Middle Eastern countries are a bunch of peace loving angels? Give me a break.
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Post by redviking on Mar 31, 2007 6:31:45 GMT -5
The border between the waters is disputed. Even if Britain was where they said they were, Iran claims that water as their own. They were in a disputed area and Iran pushed the envelope. Satiev even if Britain is right, that doesn't mean that they are going to attack Iran that quickly.
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