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Post by Big on Mar 13, 2007 19:35:36 GMT -5
Personally, I would like to see a movie of England bombing and murdering what we now know as Iraqis into obedience around 1920s..
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Post by JensenS on Mar 13, 2007 19:38:36 GMT -5
Back in those days everybody conquered everybody and the conquest Wars were not that uncommon: Your point?
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Post by Big on Mar 13, 2007 19:43:25 GMT -5
My point is that back then it was not as blatant to conquer countries as it would be viewed today.
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Post by JensenS on Mar 13, 2007 19:48:33 GMT -5
Ok, so you have no point, you're just being intentionally stupid.
None the less, the Persians invaded Greece, for the second time. They aren't going to be portrayed as well as the Greeks will be for that reason.
Lets get a movie about that pleasant fellow comrade Stalin, and the millions of people who were either murdered or just starved due to his policies. That'd be a money maker!
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Post by Big on Mar 13, 2007 20:11:10 GMT -5
Jensen,
You would not want the truth in a movie about Stalin. The truth is many people died because they broke the laws, they went against the policies of the government, however harsh those policies might seem to Americans today.
If Stalin said you have to give up your crops or go work on collective farms and people refused and destroyed crops, they were shot. Nobody forced them to destroy crops though.
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Post by Big on Mar 13, 2007 20:18:34 GMT -5
In other words, many deaths under Stalin were no different than deaths of Iraqis we see today. Those that disobey authority fight each other and those that obey the government.
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Post by satiev1 on Mar 13, 2007 20:49:43 GMT -5
Ok, so you have no point, you're just being intentionally stupid. None the less, the Persians invaded Greece, for the second time. They aren't going to be portrayed as well as the Greeks will be for that reason. Lets get a movie about that pleasant fellow comrade Stalin, and the millions of people who were either murdered or just starved due to his policies. That'd be a money maker! Jensen, the greeks weren't exactly a bunch of nice folks throughout history. Like Big said, they've been conquering and ensalving people for centuries up until Alexander's time.They had the second biggest empire next to the mongols. Yet, they were portrayed humane. I don't believe one war nation should be portrayed as humane and another the opposite just because they are the invaders.
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Post by ground3pound on Mar 13, 2007 21:10:14 GMT -5
As I said when I started the last 300 thread, I couldn't help but notice several parallels to todays current events.
I was just shocked that the overtly liberal movie industry would produced a movie that showed warriors fighting and dying for freedom.
I thought such things were out of style these days.
Calling it "anti-Iranian" is taking it a little too far though.
I saw more US v. Iraq than US v. Iran in the movie.
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Post by satiev1 on Mar 13, 2007 21:22:49 GMT -5
Well, you have to think at how Americans portray modern day Iran. They believe Iran wants to acquire nuclear energy in order to build up their once powerful persian empire. 300 depicts the persian empire at it's height and what they can do if they acquire power. In modern day terms, watch out for a nuclear powered Iran.
There's no better way to invoke fear in America than do it through entertainment and hollywood.
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Post by Big on Mar 13, 2007 21:31:31 GMT -5
Even the biggest liberals in America consider Iran evil.
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Post by satiev1 on Mar 13, 2007 21:39:11 GMT -5
A majority of Americans believed that Saddam (I know there was a few that didn't including some posters) actually could launch a nuclear warhead into NY city. If they beleive that, then they'll surely believe Iran can do that. On top of that, add hollywood propaganda and you have support for a full scale invasion like with Iraq.
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Post by oc on Mar 13, 2007 21:41:49 GMT -5
Ok, so you have no point, you're just being intentionally stupid. None the less, the Persians invaded Greece, for the second time. They aren't going to be portrayed as well as the Greeks will be for that reason. Lets get a movie about that pleasant fellow comrade Stalin, and the millions of people who were either murdered or just starved due to his policies. That'd be a money maker! Jensen, the greeks weren't exactly a bunch of nice folks throughout history. Like Big said, they've been conquering and ensalving people for centuries up until Alexander's time.They had the second biggest empire next to the mongols. Yet, they were portrayed humane. I don't believe one war nation should be portrayed as humane and another the opposite just because they are the invaders. Sataiev, Don't mess with Greek farmers, they were the best fighters on planet earth (the Spartans were the best of the best), do not threaten their homeland, Greeks (not just Spartans) gave us total warfare. Persia got their ass kicked at every turn by the Greeks for a reason. The Greeks were very, very bad.
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Post by satiev1 on Mar 13, 2007 21:47:33 GMT -5
My point is the greeks were no less ruthless than the Perisans.
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Post by oc on Mar 13, 2007 21:48:32 GMT -5
Old joke,
"Why do the Irish fight amongst themselves?"
"Because, they're always guaranteed a good fight!"
Even older joke,
"Why did the Greeks fight amongst themselves so much?"
"Because, they were always guaranteed a good fight!"
Sataiev, it's not personal, the Greeks fought everyone, even themselves, see the Pelopenisian Wars (sp).
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Post by Big on Mar 13, 2007 21:51:18 GMT -5
Greece got its ass kicked by Rome though. Battle of Corinth (146 BC) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search This battle between the Roman Republic and Corinth in 146 BC resulted in the complete and total destruction of the Greek state famous for its fabulous wealth. The Romans under Lucius Mummius Achaicus destroyed Corinth following a siege in 146 BC; when he entered the city Mummius put all the men to the sword and sold the women and children into slavery before he torched the city, for which he was given the cognomen Achaicus as the conqueror of the Achaean League. While there is archeological evidence of some minimal habitation in the years afterwards, Julius Caesar refounded the city as Colonia laus Iulia Corinthiensis in 44 BC shortly before his assassination. With Greece under Rome's control, a new chapter was added to Rome's history called the Greco-Roman Era. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Corinth_%28146_BC%29
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