Avallone
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Post by Avallone on Jan 24, 2007 10:22:48 GMT -5
Ok I picked Karissa up from wrestling practice this morning and she was upset because 1 of the boys that she had beaten twice before in ranking matches at 86lb had decided to pull down from 94lb (where he went to after she beat him) and rank her at 86lb. Well she did not know this was going to happen, at the end of practice the coach said ok now we have a ranking match at 86lb. She said she was upset that coach did not say they were going to rank before practice and she went as hard as she could all through practice and wore her self out. He beat her twice today at the end of practice so they are 2 and 2 against each other but coach told her that she had to go up to 94lb. Here is my dilemma, should I go to the coach and see if they can wrestle a tie breaker for the spot or should I leave it alone and tell Karissa to take it as a lesson that you have to be ready to go at all times? Karissa feels that she should get a chance to break the tie, because she was caught off guard this morning and let it get to her head. Any advice?
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Post by NoMoreLies on Jan 24, 2007 11:14:27 GMT -5
I would have her ask the coach to tell her(or anyone else) before practice about a ranking match. This is something the coach needs to tell everyone, especially if the matches are after practice. She also needs to explain the why he should notify the people about their wrestle-offs. I hope the coach just forgot to tell her this time.
There is really no need for you to go in there and talk to the coach.
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Post by fanforlife on Jan 24, 2007 11:55:34 GMT -5
I always thought wrestle-offs were done before practice?
Personally if it were me, I would want to know, not just have it sprung on me.
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Avallone
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Post by Avallone on Jan 25, 2007 20:21:07 GMT -5
Well I did not approach the Coach but he did come talk to me. Apparently Karissa had been slacking in practice by seeking out the kids she knew she could beat and drilling with them. He thought she needed an eye opener, she can rank again before the next dual. I think he got her attention.
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Post by sgallan on Jan 26, 2007 22:57:05 GMT -5
Sounds like a good coach. It is better to learn these lessons now, rather than later.
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Avallone
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Post by Avallone on Jan 28, 2007 14:43:28 GMT -5
Yes he is a good Coach, he Coached Mark Branch thru High School and Tyler Shinn who is the current 125lber at OSU.
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Post by sgallan on Jan 28, 2007 22:56:00 GMT -5
We are having similar situations with our kids. Reni has been doing a bit of the same. It almost bit her today.
She gets down to 60 (her call and it was easy), for a trophy tournament (rare around here), shreds the competition until the final, thinks she has an "easy" match in the final and says, "what do you want me to do dad". I know this kid is tough and say "take care of business". Well she misses a forced headlock. Gets a push out (freestyle), gets pushed out, and is down 2-1 late in the period. Won't shoot. Is getting that panic'd "I didn't bargin for this match" look in her eyes. So when she gets down I yell, "do you want the trophy or not!" She gets mad at me (as she later said), hits the best headlock she has ever thrown - properly set up - and crushes the kid. The thing is though.... had that kid survived.... she was already gassing, and would have had problems beating a kid who was tough, but she was clearly better than. It was an example of what I was trying to get across during the week.
Kids! I have been through this many times..... but it is never easy.... and harder yet with your own kid.
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Post by loki on Jan 28, 2007 23:08:04 GMT -5
I agree, good coach and Sgallan believe it or not(from me at least) you do well with your daughter...good luck!
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Post by sgallan on Jan 29, 2007 20:05:00 GMT -5
Thanks. BTW..... she worked her butt off in practice today. Did extra stuff without being asked and everything.
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Post by Wrestling Terp on Jan 30, 2007 18:10:05 GMT -5
We are having similar situations with our kids. Reni has been doing a bit of the same. It almost bit her today. Scott, psst, the same things continue on into college!!
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Post by sgallan on Jan 30, 2007 22:47:10 GMT -5
Well I am hoping to hand her off to a national level coach who doesn't go by the handle of "dad" at some point. The only thing I am going to insist on until that time comes is... this kid is a freestyler. That is the one concept she agrees with me.... preteen attitude notwithstanding.
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Post by Wrestling Terp on Jan 31, 2007 7:33:13 GMT -5
It's a delicate balance.
When I was coaching my daugther's travel lacrosse team a couple of years ago I probably went the opposite direction with her. I didn't want to be the father/coach who focused on his child. I asked her after that season if I'd kept too much distance and she said that I probably did.
One of the other fathers who was coaching with me was sometimes a bit too hard on his daughter. We'd have little reality checks where he'd come over and ask me; "was I too hard on her?" I'd tell him; "yeah, you were!"
Sounds like the coach for Karissa is pretty much in touch with things! Nice move, only suggestion would be that he'd followed up that night to let Avallone know what was going on and save a night's sleep!
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Post by sgallan on Jan 31, 2007 20:40:49 GMT -5
Around here there isn't really any training partners, a system in place, or coaches who have 'been there', to develop the better kid(s). However, my house is for sale. I am planning to move to an area with such a system, training partners, and coaches who have somewhat been there.
FWIW, when there is a situation where I don't have to be the coach. I'm not. For example at wrestling camps I have made it a habit to be a "wall parent". If I do jump in.... it is just to make sure Reni gets a good workout partner.... and maybe to help other peoples kids.
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