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Post by ground3pound on Mar 20, 2007 10:21:48 GMT -5
I posted for the first time in a very long time on the other site only to have the thread promptly deleted.
Anyone wanting to discuss the lasted Easton transfers, please speak freely.
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Post by RYou on Mar 20, 2007 17:26:46 GMT -5
Why don't you start off. Over you here you post the detail then others will comment.
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Post by lkwdsteve on Mar 20, 2007 18:48:50 GMT -5
Easton gets transers? I'd like to hear this story. Jensen won't delete it, unless you call him names (and maybe not even then).
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Post by ground3pound on Mar 20, 2007 19:12:04 GMT -5
It went something like this
- Two brothers (Meade brothers??) supposedly already moved into the Easton district so they can wrestle there next season.
- Someone posted how it is a person's right to move anywhere they want and should be allowed wrestle there.
I said it was the PIAA's right to make and enforce there own rules as long as they are discriminatory. The PIAA doesn't own wrestle and can't stop anyone from wrestling. People who don't want to follow the PIAA's rules can wrestle in the prep league or in USA Wrestling events or in other open tournaments.
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Post by RYou on Mar 20, 2007 21:06:56 GMT -5
So what is PIAA's position ? Generally, a residential move into a school disctrict will not restrict participation for that school district. Generally, the state associations require 7 days of practice with the team prior to competition, but that is not a problem if the student participates from the start of the season. That usually applies to in-season moves.
I think the state associations should spend more time looking at the recruiting by parochials.
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Post by ground3pound on Mar 20, 2007 21:25:23 GMT -5
I'll try to give an unbiased account of the recruiting/transfer issue in PA.
The eastern side of PA is much more liberal in allowing wrestlers to move to and wrestle for a few powerhouse programs. Easton is probably the biggest offender.
The western end of the state is much more strict.
The result is that the eastern side usually wins the team dual title while the west cries foul.
However, this year a western PA Catholic school under suspicion of recruiting violations, disbanded its team only to form a co-op team with an already above average neighbor district. (Greensburg CC joined Hempfeild Area) Hempfield easily won the WPIAL team title and didn't do so well at states.
There has been a lot of overt and covert protest against the co-op and it probably won't exist for long.
Meanwhile, transferring and recruiting is so well accepted out east that they have websites that track transfers.
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Post by ugly on Mar 22, 2007 12:13:33 GMT -5
I say that unless as a parent you feel that the coach of the school is totaly useless and your child is not recieving good coaching then you stay where you are at. The program I am involved in prides itself on having home grown kids, not transfers like other schools. We arent a power house program but we wrestle tuff and win our fair share.
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Post by RYou on Mar 22, 2007 16:19:34 GMT -5
I have no problem with transfers as long as the parents residence move into the school. That situation can't be argued. However, we've seen cases here in NJ where the student registered in a new school under a bogus address or as living with an aunt or uncle or even grandparent. That situation I have a problem with. We also have a 30 day suspension from varsity competition when a letterwinner at a school tries to trasnfer into or out of a prep school. Tanelli at Wisconsin was caught up in that rule. Matter of fact it cost a year for the state tournament since transferred out Bergen Catholic mid-year. He was going to a prep school some 40 miles from his home town.
I'm surprised the transfer issue isn't guided by a single state regulation. I don't see how one set of schools can apply a different interpretation than another set.
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Post by pdurant on Mar 29, 2007 23:44:40 GMT -5
Speaking of transfers - did you read about Upper Perk having to forfeit their entire season due to an illegal transfer situation? Upper Perk must forfeit team titles Don Seeley, dseeley@pottsmerc.com 03/29/2007 RED HILL -- Upper Perkiomen High School’s wrestling team was taken down Wednesday .. with a move no one associated with the program could counter. According to a press release from Timothy F. Kirby, superintendent of the district, a member of the Indians’ state and nationally ranked team this past season was found to be living illegally in the school district following an investigation that concluded Monday. "Upon investigation of a routine student enrollment question, it was found that a member of our high school wrestling team had been illegally enrolled for the 2006-2007 wrestling season," Kirby said in the statement, released to the media shortly after noon Wednesday. "Thus, our team wrestled with an ineligible wrestler all season." Neither Kirby nor anyone else from the administration identified the ineligible wrestler; however, head coach Tom Hontz, aware that many other sources had revealed the name, identified him as junior Anthony Uhrik. Athletic Director Steve Perlstein said a representative of the school immediately contacted the Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic Association, the governing body of interscholastic sports in the state, as well as District One and the Pioneer Athletic Conference officials to notify them of the incident. As a result, Upper Perkiomen will be forced to forfeit all of its dual-meet victories the ineligible wrestler participated in. It also means the Indians will forfeit their 10th straight PAC-10 title, their record fourth straight District 1-Class AAA Duals championship, and their fourth-place finish in the PIAA-Class AAA State Duals Tournament. Upper Perkiomen will also be forced to surrender its Section Two, District 1-AAA North and Southeast Regional team titles because the ineligible wrestler participated in all three of the individual postseason tournaments. Individual records and titles will not be affected by the incident.... www.pottsmerc.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18141099&BRD=1674&PAG=461&dept_id=18041&rfi=6
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Post by Spider on Mar 30, 2007 6:35:18 GMT -5
To paraphrase former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, "You go to competition with the team you have, not the team you might want or wish to have at a later time." When will high school parents and coaches put sports in the proper perspective and stop sending these wrong messages to their kids? I'm completely with Ugly on this one.
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Post by kenshirtaugh on Mar 31, 2007 1:47:04 GMT -5
Spider, smite or exalt please, you know the drill...
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