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Post by odh on Mar 19, 2007 20:33:05 GMT -5
Well, the scale is designed in a certain manner. It is only a machine made by a man. If you alter human complexion enough it might show a different weight than the one you have. For example, if your head were to have 80% of your weight, you might weigh differently on that scale than the normal human of the same weight. Maybe. No
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Post by ground3pound on Mar 19, 2007 20:33:13 GMT -5
Big, is there any issue that you are not willing to argue?
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Post by bluestater on Mar 19, 2007 20:36:00 GMT -5
I think what you are describing is how heavy someone feels - our perception of how hard it is to carry dead weight vs. live weight. Their actual weight does not change. Nope, not true. I've tightened up, like I teach my cheerleaders, on the scale, and I've weighed a bit less (I never get that precise with the dr.'s scale.)
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Post by Big on Mar 19, 2007 20:42:15 GMT -5
I don't know about electronic scales but the scales they use in medical offices, if you stand on one foot, the weight will be almost a pound lighter than when you stand on both feet.
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Post by gripsnhips on Mar 19, 2007 22:17:53 GMT -5
Good scales it doesn't matter. Fairbanks many times have a "sweet spot". Then it would matter where or how you stand. A good scale weighs the same or won't register on unbalanced weight.
I think the standing on your head theory alot of rumor. I've personally seen a guy stand on his head and be 1/10th lighter, but I've tried it a million times myself after practice, and it definitely did not work. Who knows.
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Post by Flop the Nuts on Mar 19, 2007 22:57:01 GMT -5
he released a few tenths inside the pants.
Man, I hate when that happens. The last time it happened to me was at a club in Vegas. I wasn't trying to make weight though.
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Post by ideamark on Mar 19, 2007 22:57:23 GMT -5
From interviewing Adam Frey and Coach Koll for my story for RevWrestling a month or so ago, both were very open and honest about Adam making weight... or, more correctly, not making weight. However, I understood both of them to say this was all in the past.
I think some of it may be the way he's built -- he's a rather solid/beefy guy. He also seems to have the mentality that, "No worries, I'll work it off." He thrives on working out, and has been known to hit the weight room 2 or 3 times a day.
I was very sorry to hear he wasn't able to make weight on Friday... but was not totally surprised.
Mark
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Post by lostnumber on Mar 19, 2007 23:00:59 GMT -5
as long as your scale is accurate this would not be the case.
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Post by gimp on Mar 19, 2007 23:05:58 GMT -5
The best explanation I've heard about the standing on your head thing is this: By standing on your head it changes the flow and hence the ratio of gases being carried in the various vessels which can change your weight. Is it true or even valid? Who knows? I never liked the argument about it changing the dynamics of the flow which in and of itself changes your measured weight because that would change back in the second or two it takes to get off your head and onto the scale but the gases thing might take a litle longer.
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Post by ISU2008 on Mar 19, 2007 23:36:44 GMT -5
I guess it's possible that the gases and blood and mostly water could be pulled down by gravity, yet not hit the bottom of...whatever is the bottom of you...and not be measured by the scale. Like if you put a 10 foot tall glass on a scale, and poured water into it. The water would be inside the glass, but it won't be weighed until it hits the rest of the water. Of course, not to that extreme, but maybe the same type of thing.
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Post by rapidfire on Mar 20, 2007 6:50:05 GMT -5
He must have gotten over the trauma of not making weight fairly quickly. I was at Casino Windsor on Friday night and "Adam Frey" was paged to come to the security desk over the loud speaker. I am not suggesting that he was in any kind of trouble because there was no indication of that, but appearantly he was at the casino on Friday night. Not sure that it would sit well with me if one of my teammates who we were counting on to be an All-American misses weight and then goes out that night and hangs out at the casino.
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Post by Wrestling Terp on Mar 20, 2007 7:05:01 GMT -5
You displace the same weight through you feet regardless.
I remember weighing in Jeff "Peanut" Bowyer when he was at JMU. We was doing the head stand thing for the old Maryland Holiday Open. I think he was determined to get to 118 to wrestle Jack Cuvo. Around the same time Gimp had some new fangled thing called computer software for wrestling tournaments that we used!
It was funny as heck. Bowyer would stand on his head, get on the scale all read faced, lean back, and was still over weight! He actually never did make weight (a tad bit over) but it was so entertaining watching him, and he was the last one weighing in, that I let him go on a "bounce" of the scale.
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Post by gimp on Mar 20, 2007 8:37:03 GMT -5
You displace the same weight through you feet regardless. I remember weighing in Jeff "Peanut" Bowyer when he was at JMU. We was doing the head stand thing for the old Maryland Holiday Open. I think he was determined to get to 118 to wrestle Jack Cuvo. Around the same time Gimp had some new fangled thing called computer software for wrestling tournaments that we used! My point about the gases is that one is heavier than the other not that it does anything dynamic. You mean the 1986 Holiday tourney? NCAAs were to be at Maryland that March and they asked me down to the event as sort of a warmup for everyone. I had actually been using the program for 5-6 years already.
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Post by Wrestling Terp on Mar 20, 2007 9:02:36 GMT -5
That's probably the one. We ran it for about 5 years in the early to mid-1980s.
That was the first time I met you and my life has never been the same because, well I have an entirely different opinion about socks!! ;D
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Post by kc on Mar 20, 2007 9:19:58 GMT -5
The best explanation I've heard about the standing on your head thing is this: By standing on your head it changes the flow and hence the ratio of gases being carried in the various vessels which can change your weight. Is it true or even valid? Who knows? I never liked the argument about it changing the dynamics of the flow which in and of itself changes your measured weight because that would change back in the second or two it takes to get off your head and onto the scale but the gases thing might take a litle longer. If you took an hourglass, filled it 1/2 with a dense liquid and 1/2 with a light liquid and the liquids were such that they did not "combine". Then turned it over and placed it on the scale, would it weight the same at the beginning as it would at the end (after the dense liquid made it's way to the bottom again)? I think it would. I think the 1/10th pound difference is normal measurement error. How many places to the right of the decimal are the weigh-in scales measuring?
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