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Post by ugly on Mar 23, 2007 7:32:17 GMT -5
From another message board I want your take on it. Everyone else is welcome to comment.
[glow=red,2,300]If you really knew communism then you'd know it's not a political philosophy, but an economical one. There is nothing that would stop communism and democracy working hand in hand. You'd also know that communism has never been put into practice anywhere in human history.[/glow]
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Post by Big on Mar 23, 2007 10:56:38 GMT -5
Sound bites. Capitalism and communism are both economic and political systems. In both cases the philosophies have to be enforced through government and laws and constitution.
Complete communism has never been achieved but the model was attempted in countries such as Soviet Union, no doubt about it.
Some academics say complete Democracy has never been achieved either.
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Post by ugly on Mar 23, 2007 11:13:15 GMT -5
Thats what I thought just wanted to hear it from somebody who kinda lived it. Anyone else have anything to add, Satiev anyone
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Post by Big on Mar 23, 2007 11:20:39 GMT -5
Personally, I don't like 'Democracy so much. Regular people should never vote for anything important without proper knowledge. TV ads and Church do not give such knowledge.
If you want to vote, you should have to take some tests before each election to prove you know politics and current issues on some level.
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Post by Flop the Nuts on Mar 23, 2007 12:23:25 GMT -5
If you want to vote, you should have to take some tests before each election to prove you know politics and current issues on some level. I agree with that in philosophy, but it would be nearly impossible to implement. |
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Post by Donkey on Mar 23, 2007 17:26:41 GMT -5
Thats what I thought just wanted to hear it from somebody who kinda lived it. Anyone else have anything to add, Satiev anyone Just because they lived there means nothing. What if some joe blow american moved to russia? That automatically means that russians should go to joe blow as an authority on american culture and policies?? What an inane proposition, I say. |
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Post by satiev1 on Mar 23, 2007 21:32:25 GMT -5
It's never been acheived because it's impossible to make it work. People are just too greedy when they get power. Also, there's no incentive to work harder for the average joe because he won't be rewarded on basis of his hard work.
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Post by Flop the Nuts on Mar 24, 2007 0:29:31 GMT -5
It's never been acheived because it's impossible to make it work. People are just too greedy when they get power. Also, there's no incentive to work harder for the average joe because he won't be rewarded on basis of his hard work. Wow, that's twice this week that I agree 100% with something Satiev said. |
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Post by ugly on Mar 24, 2007 9:42:03 GMT -5
Donkey it is better to get the opinion of someone who is familiar with the situation first hand than it is to consult a text book. Does it make them an authority on the issue no but it gives them insight. I would hope nobody goes to you and asks about America because we would all be portrayed as assholes.
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Post by contini on Mar 25, 2007 6:27:58 GMT -5
There is nothing that would stop communism and democracy working hand in hand.
I always wondered about that...
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Post by matclone on Mar 25, 2007 13:58:22 GMT -5
George Bush frequently and erroneously uses the term democracy (government by the people) to denote un- or less regulated capitalism. Democracy can exist with capitalism or socialism. You can also have undemocratic societies with capitalism or socialism. It's a question of where the power lies.
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Post by satiev1 on Mar 25, 2007 14:28:38 GMT -5
The only problem with communism is lack of food. There are lots of similarities. For example, only a few people in this country make it. Only about 1 precent make around a million a year. The highest 10 precent make about 80 grand. In the USSR, only about 1 precent made it also, while the rest made about an even income. In the USSR, the way you get to the top is by working for a long time and making connections through communist party members and climbing up the ranks yourself. In America, you get to the top by opening up your own corporation or business that eventually might be successfull. However, there aren't a lot of millionare in the U.S. The stats say it's at around 2 precent. In USSR, there weren't a lot of nomentaklura either. The word means people who are ranked high in society. Communism is good because it gives people free health care and services. If it provided people with enough food, it would make a good system. But, as I said before people get too fasicinated with power and it corrupts them. It's good in theory, but bad in practice. The only problem in USSR is that it destroyed Russia's ethnic group by allowing other ethnicities to feed off Russia.
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Post by Big on Mar 25, 2007 14:34:43 GMT -5
The only problem with Communism is lack of luxury. People that see luxury in other countries want to have it as well. for example, 40 years ago people were glad to drive cars that no one would look at today? Why? Only because better cars exist.
Same with communism and capitalism. Capitalism produces one sole thing humanity cannot avoid when its there, luxury and high quality of goods.
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Post by Big on Mar 25, 2007 14:41:59 GMT -5
If Democracy were truly important to people, then how come only 1/3 of people vote?
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Post by Avallone on Mar 25, 2007 14:49:20 GMT -5
If Democracy were truly important to people, then how come only 1/3 of people vote? Because they are either LAZY or think that their vote wont make a difference anyway or they don't like anybody on the ballot. Most people are comfortable in their lives and routines so as long as this is not interrupted they don't care. Just my 2 cents ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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