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Post by JensenS on Dec 4, 2006 19:30:58 GMT -5
I had been wondering about the merkle too.
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Post by ideamark on Dec 4, 2006 22:37:56 GMT -5
Anyone know who Nelson was, as in half-Nelson, full-Nelson? I've never heard, but always assumed it was named for a wrestler or a coach. Mark It's named after British Admiral Lord Nelson. When I was in London about ten years ago, I got a picture of me next to his tomb. Mark - I am unable to find confirmation of this online, but I remember our guide in London telling us this. Spider, Did a google search, and found a link at the Royal Mail (the postal service for the UK) website for kids with "fun facts" about Admiral Lord Nelson, and one of them mentioned the fact that the half Nelson was indeed named for the man atop Nelson's Column at Trafalgar Square in London... here's what the website says... Lord Nelson inspired the popular wrestling move - 'The Half Nelson', where the opponents arm is held behind their back, mimicking the fact Nelson only had one arm Here's the link: 72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:3dDG5nAnXqgJ:www.royalmail.com/gear/content/html/content/ctf/stamps/ST_5_0_Stamps_for_kids/whats_new/previous_stamps/didyouknow.html%3Bjsessionid%3DYGNYEH32DRQC0FB2IGEUQEQUHRAYOQ2K+%22admiral+lord+nelson%22+%2B+%22half+nelson%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=10&ie=UTF-8Thanks, Spider! Mark
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Post by ground3pound on Dec 4, 2006 23:24:40 GMT -5
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Post by ideamark on Dec 5, 2006 16:29:03 GMT -5
Thanks for that link, ground. I think those pics are from Martin "Farmer" Burns' 1911 book, "The Life-Work of Farmer Burns" -- a great how-to-wrestle book. He was in his fifties when he wrote the book and posed for the pics. In a handful of pics he's demonstrating holds on his protege, the world champion and fellow Iowa farmer/wrestler, Frank Gotch. Mark PS For more pics and info on Gotch -- the man whose popularity helped launch organized amateur wrestling in the US -- visit my Yahoo group sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/FrankGotchVsGeorgeHackenschmidt/
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Post by TLV on Dec 6, 2006 15:48:12 GMT -5
Ben Peterson just did an article in WIN magazine and he says unequivically that neither he nor his brother are responsely for the original "Peterson". He says that perhaps he and his bro added to it but it was some one elses.
Gable "cradle".......never hear of that one, I thought that he bread and butter was a mean and nasty bar arm.
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Post by Spider on Dec 6, 2006 18:10:38 GMT -5
Ideamark said: "I think those pics are from Martin "Farmer" Burns' 1911 book, "The Life-Work of Farmer Burns" -- a great how-to-wrestle book. He was in his fifties when he wrote the book and posed for the pics. In a handful of pics he's demonstrating holds on his protege, the world champion and fellow Iowa farmer/wrestler, Frank Gotch."
Mark,
As you know, I recently acquired an autographed copy of that book (no, ground3pound, I'm not Farmer Burns, but I taught him much of what he knows), and those pictures are from the book.
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Post by NoMoreLies on Dec 6, 2006 18:23:53 GMT -5
The Tickets after Billy Tickets Its where you are on your back fighting for your life.
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Post by JensenS on Dec 6, 2006 18:37:26 GMT -5
Gable "cradle".......never hear of that one, I thought that he bread and butter was a mean and nasty bar arm. I dunno. What we called the Gable cradle was when you'd lock up an inside cradle, and then scoot your hips to the other side of their legs before you put them to their back in order to make the cradle tighter. Anyone know the move and have a different name for it?
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Post by Wrestling Terp on Dec 7, 2006 14:14:13 GMT -5
I dunno, but the one on his back looks like he just completed Steve's Lateral Drop!!
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Post by ideamark on Dec 7, 2006 17:31:46 GMT -5
Ideamark said: "I think those pics are from Martin "Farmer" Burns' 1911 book, "The Life-Work of Farmer Burns" -- a great how-to-wrestle book. He was in his fifties when he wrote the book and posed for the pics. In a handful of pics he's demonstrating holds on his protege, the world champion and fellow Iowa farmer/wrestler, Frank Gotch."Mark, As you know, I recently acquired an autographed copy of that book (no, ground3pound, I'm not Farmer Burns, but I taught him much of what he knows), and those pictures are from the book. Spider, You have a priceless book on your hands... a gem of a book, and a real rarity. I just put in a request with Inter Library Loan for a copy, and only about a handful of libraries in the US have a circulating copy of "Life Work of Farmer Burns." It's been a while since I've seen it. I want to reread it as I work on my Gotch/Hackenschmidt book, and scan the pics from it. Burns was definitely one of the all-time greats in wrestling... Mark
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Post by scribe on Dec 7, 2006 17:53:52 GMT -5
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Post by Spider on Dec 7, 2006 18:45:43 GMT -5
Yes, that's the one I got.
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Post by ideamark on Dec 7, 2006 23:37:43 GMT -5
Yes, that's the one I got. Thanks, scribe, for the link to the eBay auction... For those of you who are the slightest bit interested, in the photo of the open spread of the book... the guy shown in the demo photos is Fred Beell, aka the Wisconsin Woodchopper, a compact but powerfully built wrestler who was the US champion very briefly when he beat Frank Gotch in a 1906 match when the Iowa Plowboy hit his head on the ringpost and Beell pinned his shoulders. Gotch got the title back in a rematch. Beell later became a policeman in Marshfield, Wisconsin where he was shot and killed in the line of duty by a bank robber in the early 1930s. Mark
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Post by Spider on Dec 10, 2006 13:37:47 GMT -5
I found the picture of me at Lord Nelson's tomb in St. Paul's Cathedral in London in 1996.
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Post by phillywrestler on Dec 10, 2006 16:29:40 GMT -5
How about the front headlock, named for a poster on themat.com.
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